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Okay, I know everybody wants to dunk on the vibes coders, ("help, I got hacked!") but... what if we have empathy for them, instead? What if *nobody* really knows what all the code in their stack does? I thought a little bit about what #hugops for vibes coders would look like, and how we build security and reliability for the inevitable new wave of coders who are going to use AI to help them build apps. https://www.fastly.com/blog/hugops-for-vibe-coders
~~~ everybody with a node_modules directory is a vibes coder ~~~
@anildash yep.
There's more than one way to look at the famous XKCD Dependency
https://xkcd.com/2347/ comic.
@anildash my man, there's a difference between actual professionals who try to understand and support their solutions, versus amateurs and dilettantes trying to work in the same space.
@MisterWanko @anildash my man, we were all beginners once
@njvack @MisterWanko and we're all still beginnners, most of the time
@MisterWanko @njvack lol gatekeepers never win
@alexmorse
harsh judgement :')
@anildash
@anildash
what does mean? Could you teach me more detail?
@anildash Provocative, but a false equivalency.
@anildash I'll admit to taking a quite dismal view of using the same language to dismantle gatekeeping as to validate vibe-coding scams.
I don't believe we gain anything by pretending that complexity doesn't exist when we reach out to beginners — rather, I posit that helping beginners navigate and understand that complexity is much more effective at dismantling institutional gatekeeping.
If it's interesting, I wrote a bit more on that over at:
https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemlog.xgranade.com/2025/03/19.gmi