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Beste leden van de @PartijvoordeDieren,

Vanavond op de amendementenavond wordt ook de toevoeging uit amendement 290 besproken: "We stellen op korte termijn een #basisinkomen in...".

Dit is een heel belangrijk amendement. Ik roep een ieder die dit amendement steunt op om aanwezig te zijn bij de peiling.

Voor alle details zie: partijvoordedieren.nl/congress (alleen toegankelijk voor leden van de #PvdD).

De amendementenavond start om 19:00.

Partij voor de DierenPartij voor de DierenDe Partij voor de Dieren staat voor duurzaamheid, mededogen, persoonlijke vrijheid en persoonlijke verantwoordelijkheid. Doe mee en word lid!

"For the sake of argument, let’s say that AGI is imminent and, once here, will take everyone’s jobs.1 That means the entire workforce will become economically irrelevant, which means in turn that folks like Musk, who control the AGIs, will have no economic incentive to care about us.

Some researchers have likened the resulting predicament to the “resource curse” (or “poverty paradox”), which describes how countries with rich natural resources are more likely to be impoverished, authoritarian, and corrupt (think of Venezuela, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Russia, etc.). Simplifying things a bit: countries that don’t have natural resources rely mostly on taxes to fund the government. This gives the government an economic incentive to invest in goods like education and infrastructure, because a well-off citizenry will generate more taxable wealth. But if a country can get its wealth directly from natural resources, the incentive to invest in the demos diminishes — hence the plight of many resource-rich countries.

Similarly, if oligarchs like Musk generate all of their wealth through AGI because AGI has made everyone jobless, they’ll have no economic incentive to ensure that the general population is well-off. We should thus expect outcomes similarly atrocious to what you find in resource-rich countries: mass poverty, concentration of power, widespread corruption, etc. On this analogy, AGI is better thought of as a “resource” than a “technology” or “tool.”

Musk, in fact, is already taking steps to create a new company called “Macrohard” that’s run entirely by AI systems."

realtimetechpocalypse.com/p/em

Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter · "Ass From Its Elbow": AI Is Still Very Dumb, And Elon Musk Continues to Lie About Universal Basic IncomeBy Realtime Techpocalypse Newsletter
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> […]they're hurting Ontario residents," Ford said of the company […] "You're gonna feel the pain in February when these people don't have a pay cheque."

If Doug Ford was concerned about Ontario residents he'd implement a Basic Income. That would protect the unemployed Diageo workers, and people would have money to buy the houses that aren't being built, and gas for cars from the dying Ontario auto industry to drive on the freeways he's paving over farmland.

#UniversalBasicIncome #UBI

@chris

If you're going to structure your society to require both parents work full-time outside the home, then the least you could do is make sure there are enough places for the kids to be cared for while the parents are being worked.

Failing that, #UBI and break the power the employers have over us.

Oh - and please consider subscribing to the Dublin Inquirer if you're near the capital, this is the sort of good local journalism we need more of.

dublininquirer.com/amid-nation

Dublin InQuirer · Amid national shortage of childcare places, developer in Donabate asks to scrap planned crècheNearly 40,000 kids were on waiting lists for creches nationally, including more than 1,000 in Fingal, according to Pobal data.

On the public radio show Marketplace, they mentioned that current economic growth was being driven by building AI data centers.

Those don’t sound like the kind of “factories” that Trump promised which will make well-paying sustainable jobs for the working and middle classes.

In fact, AI will replace those jobs.

Universal Basic Income, anyone?

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@aaronp when their material needs are not met the brain prioritises short-term aims at the expense of long-term strategy. Financial worries push your brain into survival mode which may well not be the most sensible decision. Mental acuity is negatively impacted by financial worries.
It’s not that stupid people become poor. Some become extremely wealthy.

But poverty does make you stupid.
So the solution is to stamp out poverty. #ubi

The stupidity around the #UBI discourse is epic.

The AI bubble looks ready to burst, and the AI pushers are now promising free money for people if they just let the LLMs control out lives.

The more likely outcome is the AIs will allow grocers, landlords and insurers to jack up prices even faster, and the resulting swell in homelessness will be classified by the "non-woke" AIs as a "crime wave" and you will get sent to a concentration camp.

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Top recent happenings in the world of universal basic income (UBI) and the Income to Support All Foundation
ITSA NewsletterITSA Foundation Newsletter: August 2025Top recent happenings in the world of universal basic income (UBI) and the Income to Support All Foundation